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	<title>Comments on: The Hall of Shame</title>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-5723</link>
		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>face it....you&#039;re all full of it, and redfin sucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>face it&#8230;.you&#8217;re all full of it, and redfin sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know so many realtors who have cheated my friends. They lie about inspections, jack up fees, tamper with appraisals and take kickbacks from mortgage brokers.  Realtors have told many people that interest rates are still going down (until recently they were not), and that now is a good time to buy.  They will do anything to get someone into a house.  Who is left to take responsibility for talking some poor person into a house they cannot afford and end up losing?  
I understand that not every realtor is not a dirtbag, but I have heard too many stories about realtors who are.
P.S. I don&#039;t want to hear any excuses from you CSP, I think we all know what kind of realtor you are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know so many realtors who have cheated my friends. They lie about inspections, jack up fees, tamper with appraisals and take kickbacks from mortgage brokers.  Realtors have told many people that interest rates are still going down (until recently they were not), and that now is a good time to buy.  They will do anything to get someone into a house.  Who is left to take responsibility for talking some poor person into a house they cannot afford and end up losing?<br />
I understand that not every realtor is not a dirtbag, but I have heard too many stories about realtors who are.<br />
P.S. I don&#8217;t want to hear any excuses from you CSP, I think we all know what kind of realtor you are</p>
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		<title>By: mr. big</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>mr. big</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey you should check my post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you should check my post</p>
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		<title>By: mary J</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>mary J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you people get any work done??  I have very little time to devote to &quot;writing or even reading&quot; all I have seen here!  Too busy representing by buyers &amp; sellers! However  I have enjoyed the excitement created here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you people get any work done??  I have very little time to devote to &#8220;writing or even reading&#8221; all I have seen here!  Too busy representing by buyers &amp; sellers! However  I have enjoyed the excitement created here.</p>
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		<title>By: EBB</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>EBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered when someone would get the picture!  Kudos to &quot;Dual Agent?&quot; for pointing out the obvious - if we come to a time when Sellers compensate the Listing Agent, and Buyers compensate their Buyer Agent - then there won&#039;t be an offered co-broke for Redfin or anyone to rebate to their client.  Just as Listing Agents negotiate their service fees with Sellers, Buyers would do the same with their reps, and likely be a whole lot more selective about who they worked with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered when someone would get the picture!  Kudos to &#8220;Dual Agent?&#8221; for pointing out the obvious &#8211; if we come to a time when Sellers compensate the Listing Agent, and Buyers compensate their Buyer Agent &#8211; then there won&#8217;t be an offered co-broke for Redfin or anyone to rebate to their client.  Just as Listing Agents negotiate their service fees with Sellers, Buyers would do the same with their reps, and likely be a whole lot more selective about who they worked with!</p>
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		<title>By: redfin sucks</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>redfin sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>red fin is the worst real esstate company ever and they are racist they wouldnt hel me get a home just because i am african american</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>red fin is the worst real esstate company ever and they are racist they wouldnt hel me get a home just because i am african american</p>
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		<title>By: redfin sucks</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>redfin sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>red fin is the worst real esstate company ever and they are racist they wouldnt hel me get a home just because i am african american</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>red fin is the worst real esstate company ever and they are racist they wouldnt hel me get a home just because i am african american</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to interject in all this wonderful broker talk about what is best for consumers but as one I think you all are missing an important point.  Some of us don?t want an agent showing us a house, so why then should there be a buyer fee of 3%?  You might argue that as the selling agent you are entitled to it because you have to do double the work, TOTALLY NOT TRUE.  I have used Redfin and they gave me BETTER service than other agents I have used in the past.  I wish you realtor ?professionals? would stop suggesting that somehow I am getting less service because I?m not paying as much.   

Furthermore as a consumer, I am perfectly capable of deciding what house I like on my own.  And to use the argument that I might give off ?buying signs? during the inspection is a lame and weak argument.  If that?s your value proposition than fine, I?d rather pay a slightly higher price because I gave of buying signals during an inspection than pay an agent a full 3% commission.  In the end I will still save money.

Lastly, if you are a good agent, than there is nothing to worry about and the Hall of Shame shouldn?t bother you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to interject in all this wonderful broker talk about what is best for consumers but as one I think you all are missing an important point.  Some of us don?t want an agent showing us a house, so why then should there be a buyer fee of 3%?  You might argue that as the selling agent you are entitled to it because you have to do double the work, TOTALLY NOT TRUE.  I have used Redfin and they gave me BETTER service than other agents I have used in the past.  I wish you realtor ?professionals? would stop suggesting that somehow I am getting less service because I?m not paying as much.   </p>
<p>Furthermore as a consumer, I am perfectly capable of deciding what house I like on my own.  And to use the argument that I might give off ?buying signs? during the inspection is a lame and weak argument.  If that?s your value proposition than fine, I?d rather pay a slightly higher price because I gave of buying signals during an inspection than pay an agent a full 3% commission.  In the end I will still save money.</p>
<p>Lastly, if you are a good agent, than there is nothing to worry about and the Hall of Shame shouldn?t bother you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dual Agent?</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Dual Agent?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A simple way to cure this Redfin issue of letting the listing agent do the work of a dual agent is to lower the co-broke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple way to cure this Redfin issue of letting the listing agent do the work of a dual agent is to lower the co-broke!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reifert</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2006/06/the_hall_of_shame.html/comment-page-2#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reifert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the need to post a correction/clarification:

Listing brokers can certainly claim to be the procuring cause of a sale.

When they are actually squaring off against another seller&#039;s broker, I would not see a problem with a panel determining that they are the procuring cause, given the appropriate circumstances.

Protecting seller agents from one another was the basis for (Realtor) procuring cause in the first place.

It is when the buyer has no awareness that procuring cause exists, and then wishes to have a buyer&#039;s agent--at no additional cost to them--that I truly take exception to the abuses inherent with the non-disclosure of procuring cause.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.real-reform.org/pc.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.real-reform.org/pc.pdf&lt;/a&gt;

And I still maintain that the changes made to Realtor procuring cause, in January of 2005, were in direct response to Redfin and others that might conduct business like Redfin.

Jay Reifert, Broker/Owner
Excel-Exclusive Buyer Agency
Madison, Wisconsin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the need to post a correction/clarification:</p>
<p>Listing brokers can certainly claim to be the procuring cause of a sale.</p>
<p>When they are actually squaring off against another seller&#8217;s broker, I would not see a problem with a panel determining that they are the procuring cause, given the appropriate circumstances.</p>
<p>Protecting seller agents from one another was the basis for (Realtor) procuring cause in the first place.</p>
<p>It is when the buyer has no awareness that procuring cause exists, and then wishes to have a buyer&#8217;s agent&#8211;at no additional cost to them&#8211;that I truly take exception to the abuses inherent with the non-disclosure of procuring cause.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.real-reform.org/pc.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.real-reform.org/pc.pdf</a></p>
<p>And I still maintain that the changes made to Realtor procuring cause, in January of 2005, were in direct response to Redfin and others that might conduct business like Redfin.</p>
<p>Jay Reifert, Broker/Owner<br />
Excel-Exclusive Buyer Agency<br />
Madison, Wisconsin</p>
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