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		<title>By: Is this the right time to start or expand your discount realty business? &#124; 360Digest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is this the right time to start or expand your discount realty business? &#124; 360Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are struggling. Zip Realty has yet to make a profit. Redfin hasn&#8217;t shown a profit either and has had to raise their prices, while quietly eliminating the listing agent contact info that they originally had on their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are struggling. Zip Realty has yet to make a profit. Redfin hasn&#8217;t shown a profit either and has had to raise their prices, while quietly eliminating the listing agent contact info that they originally had on their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re No Sell-Outs &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re No Sell-Outs &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quick to admit its many mistakes: hiring too fast, charging too little for representing buyers, charging too much for tours, taking on more clients than we could handle, adopting an overly strident tone. But we have never [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quick to admit its many mistakes: hiring too fast, charging too little for representing buyers, charging too much for tours, taking on more clients than we could handle, adopting an overly strident tone. But we have never [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Our Shot at the Mass Market &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Shot at the Mass Market &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] big changes, which we first tested in April, researched in June, and discussed as recently as September.  You can get all the details from our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] big changes, which we first tested in April, researched in June, and discussed as recently as September.  You can get all the details from our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? : Domus Test Test Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? : Domus Test Test Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little fanfare, Redfin, that pesky little Seattle brokerage the real estate industry loves to hate, announced yesterday their &#8220;Redfin Select&#8221; program, which looks suspiciously more and more like &#8230; a traditional brokerage [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little fanfare, Redfin, that pesky little Seattle brokerage the real estate industry loves to hate, announced yesterday their &#8220;Redfin Select&#8221; program, which looks suspiciously more and more like &#8230; a traditional brokerage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redfin Select (Seattle) &#124; Cheap condos are real?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redfin Select (Seattle) &#124; Cheap condos are real?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read on Redfin Blog  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Special Sunday Session at BloodhoundBlog Unchained: Russell Shaw UNPLUGGED (And: Why I&#8217;m Going to Win My Pricing Battle With Greg) &#124; BloodhoundBlog Unchained &#124; Social Media Marketing Conference for real estate professionals &#124; May 18-19, 2008, Phoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Special Sunday Session at BloodhoundBlog Unchained: Russell Shaw UNPLUGGED (And: Why I&#8217;m Going to Win My Pricing Battle With Greg) &#124; BloodhoundBlog Unchained &#124; Social Media Marketing Conference for real estate professionals &#124; May 18-19, 2008, Phoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] merely being in the right place at the right time. It&#8217;s no secret that Russell will engage Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman in a Presidential-style debate, to close out UNCHAINED. I fully expect that the presence of two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] merely being in the right place at the right time. It&#8217;s no secret that Russell will engage Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman in a Presidential-style debate, to close out UNCHAINED. I fully expect that the presence of two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Special Sunday Session at BloodhoundBlog Unchained: Russell Shaw UNPLUGGED (And: Why I&#8217;m Going to Win My Pricing Battle With Greg) &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investme</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Special Sunday Session at BloodhoundBlog Unchained: Russell Shaw UNPLUGGED (And: Why I&#8217;m Going to Win My Pricing Battle With Greg) &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] merely being in the right place at the right time. It&#8217;s no secret that Russell will engage Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman in a Presidential-style debate, to close out UNCHAINED. I fully expect that the presence of two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] merely being in the right place at the right time. It&#8217;s no secret that Russell will engage Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman in a Presidential-style debate, to close out UNCHAINED. I fully expect that the presence of two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kori, the only way I know it can be done is through volume, although right now is not a favorable time to be talking about volume. The market will turn around, though. If Glen is strengthening service to attract volume then I think he&#039;s on the right track.

I have taken a fictional model based on Redfin&#039;s set-up and added service and marketing to the equation, then looked at the volume it would take for one team to be profitable, and the numbers are realistically achievable.

The trick is to capture the consumers trust that service is not sacrificed -- if a company like Redfin can compete on the service end by doing far more volume than the average agent, in a team effort bolstered by technology, and can do it at a significantly lower cost, then when the market turns consumers ought to flock to such an offering.

However, price speaks for itself but service has to be proven and marketed. Once consumers see they can get comparable or better service at a lower price, it&#039;s a nobrainer -- then it&#039;s a matter of creating great, efficient teams that can produce huge amounts of volume. Build it right and they will come. The opportunity for Redfin is to position itself not as a discount model, but rather a superior service model at a lower price.

Hard to do, but not impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kori, the only way I know it can be done is through volume, although right now is not a favorable time to be talking about volume. The market will turn around, though. If Glen is strengthening service to attract volume then I think he&#8217;s on the right track.</p>
<p>I have taken a fictional model based on Redfin&#8217;s set-up and added service and marketing to the equation, then looked at the volume it would take for one team to be profitable, and the numbers are realistically achievable.</p>
<p>The trick is to capture the consumers trust that service is not sacrificed &#8212; if a company like Redfin can compete on the service end by doing far more volume than the average agent, in a team effort bolstered by technology, and can do it at a significantly lower cost, then when the market turns consumers ought to flock to such an offering.</p>
<p>However, price speaks for itself but service has to be proven and marketed. Once consumers see they can get comparable or better service at a lower price, it&#8217;s a nobrainer &#8212; then it&#8217;s a matter of creating great, efficient teams that can produce huge amounts of volume. Build it right and they will come. The opportunity for Redfin is to position itself not as a discount model, but rather a superior service model at a lower price.</p>
<p>Hard to do, but not impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farmer Joe,

As a non-Redfin&#039;er agent/broker, I can vouch that at least in the DC area, the Redfin agents are in NO WAY NEWBIES.

Just last week, one of their agents submitted on a listing that I had. He was responsive. Knew how to negotiate, and he used technology to produce the cleanest of the 5 contracts that I got that day.

I wish people would focus their energy on sucky agents and weekend warriors, instead of immediately equating &quot;discount&quot; with &quot;inexperience.&quot;

As for the extra tours, I would imagine that they might consider hiring newer employees to do some high volume TWL &quot;Taxi-ing With License.&quot; Just as you might go to several Open Houses without your agent, sometimes the goal is to crank out 20-40 homes, and for that you don&#039;t need an experienced agent. 

Also this notion of having a high # of agents is hogwash. Many of the local big companies will try to fill out their company photo to huff and puff and look big. In reality only 5-10% of them actually do a sale a month.

Frank 
Broker FranklyRealty.com (Va/DC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farmer Joe,</p>
<p>As a non-Redfin&#8217;er agent/broker, I can vouch that at least in the DC area, the Redfin agents are in NO WAY NEWBIES.</p>
<p>Just last week, one of their agents submitted on a listing that I had. He was responsive. Knew how to negotiate, and he used technology to produce the cleanest of the 5 contracts that I got that day.</p>
<p>I wish people would focus their energy on sucky agents and weekend warriors, instead of immediately equating &#8220;discount&#8221; with &#8220;inexperience.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the extra tours, I would imagine that they might consider hiring newer employees to do some high volume TWL &#8220;Taxi-ing With License.&#8221; Just as you might go to several Open Houses without your agent, sometimes the goal is to crank out 20-40 homes, and for that you don&#8217;t need an experienced agent. </p>
<p>Also this notion of having a high # of agents is hogwash. Many of the local big companies will try to fill out their company photo to huff and puff and look big. In reality only 5-10% of them actually do a sale a month.</p>
<p>Frank<br />
Broker FranklyRealty.com (Va/DC)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, not sure if you heard, but I have 100% proof that the market is about to skyrocket! Yep. Turns out that over the last decade the last 2 times my mom sold her place, the market took off. And being that she just sold a 3rd place last week, are are in for a good ride!

Anyhow, I did some math on your Redfin Select program. On a $500,000 house the difference is about $2500. So the customer would still be better with the alacarte service if they were going to do 12 or fewer tours right?

While the $250 sounds reasonable, I still suspect that buyers will STILL want to save that $250. I&#039;m happy to hear that Redfin is cracking down on buyers that lie to listing agents (saying they have no agent) to get a &quot;free viewing.&quot; Kudos to you on that.

Frank
Broker FranklyRealty.com (Virginia/DC)

ps. Also is that $250 paid at closing (deducted) or must they pay up front? Ie if they never buy a home, are they still on the hook for the $250. If not, might be a good way to get a free ride to work a couple times a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, not sure if you heard, but I have 100% proof that the market is about to skyrocket! Yep. Turns out that over the last decade the last 2 times my mom sold her place, the market took off. And being that she just sold a 3rd place last week, are are in for a good ride!</p>
<p>Anyhow, I did some math on your Redfin Select program. On a $500,000 house the difference is about $2500. So the customer would still be better with the alacarte service if they were going to do 12 or fewer tours right?</p>
<p>While the $250 sounds reasonable, I still suspect that buyers will STILL want to save that $250. I&#8217;m happy to hear that Redfin is cracking down on buyers that lie to listing agents (saying they have no agent) to get a &#8220;free viewing.&#8221; Kudos to you on that.</p>
<p>Frank<br />
Broker FranklyRealty.com (Virginia/DC)</p>
<p>ps. Also is that $250 paid at closing (deducted) or must they pay up front? Ie if they never buy a home, are they still on the hook for the $250. If not, might be a good way to get a free ride to work a couple times a week.</p>
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