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	<title>Comments on: The Science of Real Estate and the 44-Pound Cat</title>
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		<title>By: More Real Estate Science! Finding the Sweetest Deals &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Real Estate Science! Finding the Sweetest Deals &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Earlier in the day, I’d asked, “Who’re the Jonas Brothers?” The entire green room fell into shocked silence.&quot;

My daughter Maggie would have your hide.  
Note To GK- Start watching Disney Channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Earlier in the day, I’d asked, “Who’re the Jonas Brothers?” The entire green room fell into shocked silence.&#8221;</p>
<p>My daughter Maggie would have your hide.<br />
Note To GK- Start watching Disney Channel</p>
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		<title>By: Janelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent an note to Glenn requesting he bring the 44 pounds cat back to Seattle.

My husband requested he bring Carla Bruni back to Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent an note to Glenn requesting he bring the 44 pounds cat back to Seattle.</p>
<p>My husband requested he bring Carla Bruni back to Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Kelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Kelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Frank,
Awesome note. I fixed the link.
We were actually on GMA to talk about a new report, due out Thursday.

As for your comments on past research:
We debut listings Thursday night, so they show up in email alerts but also appear as new for Friday web searches. We&#039;ll send you the data for the research on buyer&#039;s agent commissions, if we still have it. 

Check back Thursday for data about when sellers are most likely to accept a discount.

Thanks again for the lively debate. It&#039;s really good. 

Regards, Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Frank,<br />
Awesome note. I fixed the link.<br />
We were actually on GMA to talk about a new report, due out Thursday.</p>
<p>As for your comments on past research:<br />
We debut listings Thursday night, so they show up in email alerts but also appear as new for Friday web searches. We&#8217;ll send you the data for the research on buyer&#8217;s agent commissions, if we still have it. </p>
<p>Check back Thursday for data about when sellers are most likely to accept a discount.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the lively debate. It&#8217;s really good. </p>
<p>Regards, Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Frank LLosa-Broker FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank LLosa-Broker FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Glenn,

Next time let&#039;s give the TV shows a great debate. 

The Scientist vs the Artist.

I would LOVE to take on your science of real estate stats.

Great marketing (is that an art), but not great science (in my opinion).

And as a normal defender of Redfin, you will 
know that this isn&#039;t just typical Redfin bashing (by other Realtors).

1) Your link to the science lab is broken (missing http).

2) Listing on Friday is the best day?

I strongly disagree. You say that Thursday is the worst? What do your stats say about the % of people that find out about NEW homes via emails alerts? I would say 80% do.

What happens if you list on Friday and the alerts go out at midnight (like many do)? A decent percent will get their emails sent to their work email (people love to spend hours at work surfing for homes) on Saturday. That is no good.

So it sits and gets opened on Monday (your Redfin alerts should tell you the % that open on what day)

So I still say that Wed night or Thursday is the best day. You don&#039;t want to do it too early since you want to create an excitement around the first open and try and snag 2 buyers.

I do agree that more people search on Friday, but the serious buyers use alerts, and they need to know BEFORE Friday.

3) Your &quot;what to offer the buyer agent.&quot; That needs to be looked at more closely. By an artist. You say that those that offer LESS to buyer agents get 99.9% of list price on average. Please send me that EXCEL spreadsheet.  On the one hand I CAN see this happening with bank deals, since they tend to offer less to buyer agents and sometimes they under price and get bid over list, but that wouldn&#039;t make sense with the extra 30% DOM.

I do agree artistically with your science that bonuses don&#039;t work. They tend to be overpriced listings that try to bribe the agents. Eventually they break down and drop drop drop.

I tried doing my own analysis on the 2.5% buyer agent fee and 3% fee, and I couldn&#039;t find anything conclusive. Instead I know how agents are, and how many are weekend warriors and a 20% pay cut very well could demotivate a buyer agent. 

3) On the &quot;price within the price brackets&quot; I did my own scientific study a few months ago for a client that was on the $50k bracket fence (list at $499k or $505k). I found that those that were just over the search brackets did BETTER in terms of DOM and % of list. I have my reasons for why that might be, but your bracket information wasn&#039;t based on the right science. Instead you went back to Real Estate 101 where the big boys teach that as a way to beat down sellers into a lower bracket.

4) Your Motivated seller argument. Did you run your own stats on that? When I researched sellers that had &quot;motivated seller&quot; in the remarks, I found 400 homes. They did DOUBLED their price drops vs the average seller.

5) My FranklyCRA (see blog) will give you much more accurate predicted closing prices.

Ok, that will do for now.

Oh 1 more thing, a video response:
www.tinyurl.com/redfindebate

Thanks!

Frank Borges LL0SA  Blog.FranklyRealty.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Glenn,</p>
<p>Next time let&#8217;s give the TV shows a great debate. </p>
<p>The Scientist vs the Artist.</p>
<p>I would LOVE to take on your science of real estate stats.</p>
<p>Great marketing (is that an art), but not great science (in my opinion).</p>
<p>And as a normal defender of Redfin, you will<br />
know that this isn&#8217;t just typical Redfin bashing (by other Realtors).</p>
<p>1) Your link to the science lab is broken (missing http).</p>
<p>2) Listing on Friday is the best day?</p>
<p>I strongly disagree. You say that Thursday is the worst? What do your stats say about the % of people that find out about NEW homes via emails alerts? I would say 80% do.</p>
<p>What happens if you list on Friday and the alerts go out at midnight (like many do)? A decent percent will get their emails sent to their work email (people love to spend hours at work surfing for homes) on Saturday. That is no good.</p>
<p>So it sits and gets opened on Monday (your Redfin alerts should tell you the % that open on what day)</p>
<p>So I still say that Wed night or Thursday is the best day. You don&#8217;t want to do it too early since you want to create an excitement around the first open and try and snag 2 buyers.</p>
<p>I do agree that more people search on Friday, but the serious buyers use alerts, and they need to know BEFORE Friday.</p>
<p>3) Your &#8220;what to offer the buyer agent.&#8221; That needs to be looked at more closely. By an artist. You say that those that offer LESS to buyer agents get 99.9% of list price on average. Please send me that EXCEL spreadsheet.  On the one hand I CAN see this happening with bank deals, since they tend to offer less to buyer agents and sometimes they under price and get bid over list, but that wouldn&#8217;t make sense with the extra 30% DOM.</p>
<p>I do agree artistically with your science that bonuses don&#8217;t work. They tend to be overpriced listings that try to bribe the agents. Eventually they break down and drop drop drop.</p>
<p>I tried doing my own analysis on the 2.5% buyer agent fee and 3% fee, and I couldn&#8217;t find anything conclusive. Instead I know how agents are, and how many are weekend warriors and a 20% pay cut very well could demotivate a buyer agent. </p>
<p>3) On the &#8220;price within the price brackets&#8221; I did my own scientific study a few months ago for a client that was on the $50k bracket fence (list at $499k or $505k). I found that those that were just over the search brackets did BETTER in terms of DOM and % of list. I have my reasons for why that might be, but your bracket information wasn&#8217;t based on the right science. Instead you went back to Real Estate 101 where the big boys teach that as a way to beat down sellers into a lower bracket.</p>
<p>4) Your Motivated seller argument. Did you run your own stats on that? When I researched sellers that had &#8220;motivated seller&#8221; in the remarks, I found 400 homes. They did DOUBLED their price drops vs the average seller.</p>
<p>5) My FranklyCRA (see blog) will give you much more accurate predicted closing prices.</p>
<p>Ok, that will do for now.</p>
<p>Oh 1 more thing, a video response:<br />
<a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/redfindebate" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyurl.com/redfindebate</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Frank Borges LL0SA  Blog.FranklyRealty.com</p>
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