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	<title>Comments on: Revenge of the Nerds: Microsoft&#8217;s Ad is Better than Apple&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: La Gente del Basura</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-6537</link>
		<dc:creator>La Gente del Basura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Microsoft really wants to gain ground on Apple, they’ll stop trying to beat them at their own game and spend some time figuring out what they actually can do better. Fixing Vista would be a good start.&quot;

That&#039;s all that needs to be said.  Microsoft hates it when anyone else has success as they seem to believe they are entitled to it all.  They do not play fair, and innovation is a completely foreign concept to them.

Microsoft&#039;s ads are a feel-good message to the lowest common denominator with an anti-Apple bias or simply is unwilling to look at another product objectively rather than seeing it as a culture to which they are unwelcome or don&#039;t understand.  While it has its own culture, you don&#039;t have to be part of it to actually use the produce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Microsoft really wants to gain ground on Apple, they’ll stop trying to beat them at their own game and spend some time figuring out what they actually can do better. Fixing Vista would be a good start.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all that needs to be said.  Microsoft hates it when anyone else has success as they seem to believe they are entitled to it all.  They do not play fair, and innovation is a completely foreign concept to them.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s ads are a feel-good message to the lowest common denominator with an anti-Apple bias or simply is unwilling to look at another product objectively rather than seeing it as a culture to which they are unwelcome or don&#8217;t understand.  While it has its own culture, you don&#8217;t have to be part of it to actually use the produce.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said &quot;Airbook,&quot; therefore, you deserve to be PC.  It&#039;s a MacBook Air, moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said &#8220;Airbook,&#8221; therefore, you deserve to be PC.  It&#8217;s a MacBook Air, moron.</p>
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		<title>By: See! See! Apple is the Marketing Bully &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-4606</link>
		<dc:creator>See! See! Apple is the Marketing Bully &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last September, when Microsoft first launched its &#8220;I&#8217;m a PC&#8221; ads, we pointed out that Apple was a marketing behemoth, and Microsoft was the nerdy engineering company: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last September, when Microsoft first launched its &#8220;I&#8217;m a PC&#8221; ads, we pointed out that Apple was a marketing behemoth, and Microsoft was the nerdy engineering company: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Kelman</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3865</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Kelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, I agree that Apple has better product design than... any other company on the planet. The tendency to overengineer something can still come from engineers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, I agree that Apple has better product design than&#8230; any other company on the planet. The tendency to overengineer something can still come from engineers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hillinger</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3863</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Hillinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to say Glenn, you&#039;ve made a good point. However, I still must disagree with you. 

Microsoft&#039;s campaign is, at its core, a defensive move to stop the bloodletting that Apple&#039;s been exacting upon it with its Mac ads for what, 2 years now? 

The Microsoft ads are an attempt at repositioning Apple&#039;s campaign as being both mean-spirited towards the squillions of PC users out there who have blithely allowed themselves to be treated this way, and simultaneously to reposition Microsoft as a more fun, whacky, irreverent kind of company. 

On the first point, which is more or less your argument, I think they&#039;ve done okay, a B-. 

On the second point, however, they get an F. The ads are simply not true to their brand. It&#039;s lipstick on a pig (sorry Sarah). If, in three years time, Microsoft has successfully rebranded itself as a fun, whacky, irreverent, non-corporate hairball of a company, I&#039;ll gladly eat my words. But you know this is just the latest salvo in an attempt by MS to be seen as being in-touch with consumers and, you know, hip in a nerdy sorta way. Not buying it. 

Which brings me to my last point. Yes, Apple is the marketing juggernaut and Microsoft is the engineering company. But say what you want about Apple flooding the airwaves and billboards with ads, their best marketing is saved for the products themselves. Better design. Better functionality. Better usability. Better integration of third-party apps (App Store anyone?)

If Microsoft really wants to gain ground on Apple, they&#039;ll stop trying to beat them at their own game and spend some time figuring out what they actually can do better. Fixing Vista would be a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to say Glenn, you&#8217;ve made a good point. However, I still must disagree with you. </p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s campaign is, at its core, a defensive move to stop the bloodletting that Apple&#8217;s been exacting upon it with its Mac ads for what, 2 years now? </p>
<p>The Microsoft ads are an attempt at repositioning Apple&#8217;s campaign as being both mean-spirited towards the squillions of PC users out there who have blithely allowed themselves to be treated this way, and simultaneously to reposition Microsoft as a more fun, whacky, irreverent kind of company. </p>
<p>On the first point, which is more or less your argument, I think they&#8217;ve done okay, a B-. </p>
<p>On the second point, however, they get an F. The ads are simply not true to their brand. It&#8217;s lipstick on a pig (sorry Sarah). If, in three years time, Microsoft has successfully rebranded itself as a fun, whacky, irreverent, non-corporate hairball of a company, I&#8217;ll gladly eat my words. But you know this is just the latest salvo in an attempt by MS to be seen as being in-touch with consumers and, you know, hip in a nerdy sorta way. Not buying it. </p>
<p>Which brings me to my last point. Yes, Apple is the marketing juggernaut and Microsoft is the engineering company. But say what you want about Apple flooding the airwaves and billboards with ads, their best marketing is saved for the products themselves. Better design. Better functionality. Better usability. Better integration of third-party apps (App Store anyone?)</p>
<p>If Microsoft really wants to gain ground on Apple, they&#8217;ll stop trying to beat them at their own game and spend some time figuring out what they actually can do better. Fixing Vista would be a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Leaving Microsoft for a Startup &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3852</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaving Microsoft for a Startup &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Real Estate Raj</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3848</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Estate Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta hand it to them. They&#039;ve managed to make something that doesn&#039;t look bad. Now if I could just get vista to recognize my printer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta hand it to them. They&#8217;ve managed to make something that doesn&#8217;t look bad. Now if I could just get vista to recognize my printer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Kelman</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3847</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Kelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche Alex. But maybe there&#039;s a difference between saying your product is better and saying that the people who use your product are better, or cooler. Something about Apple&#039;s ad strikes me as just beating up on nerds mercilessly. I liked it that Microsoft has reclaimed nerd. 

Bill: LONG LIVE TIVO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche Alex. But maybe there&#8217;s a difference between saying your product is better and saying that the people who use your product are better, or cooler. Something about Apple&#8217;s ad strikes me as just beating up on nerds mercilessly. I liked it that Microsoft has reclaimed nerd. </p>
<p>Bill: LONG LIVE TIVO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Mather</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Mather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iPod&#039;s absolute domination of the portable audio player market has very little to do with marketing. It&#039;s an amazing product that keeps getting better. Anyone who has used OSX and Windows will have a preference that is based on experience not TV commercials.

Apple has stepped up it&#039;s ad campaign big time over the past few years but that&#039;s because they&#039;re trying to reach the laggards now. (Everyone else already has an iPod.)

By the way Glen, if an underdog company with better products is being mean by comparing itself favorably to it&#039;s bigger but crappier competition then Redfin is a big mean bully, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPod&#8217;s absolute domination of the portable audio player market has very little to do with marketing. It&#8217;s an amazing product that keeps getting better. Anyone who has used OSX and Windows will have a preference that is based on experience not TV commercials.</p>
<p>Apple has stepped up it&#8217;s ad campaign big time over the past few years but that&#8217;s because they&#8217;re trying to reach the laggards now. (Everyone else already has an iPod.)</p>
<p>By the way Glen, if an underdog company with better products is being mean by comparing itself favorably to it&#8217;s bigger but crappier competition then Redfin is a big mean bully, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lublin</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/blog/2008/09/the_new_microsoft_ad_is_un-one-uppable.html/comment-page-1#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen; Here I see the disadvantage of using Tivo for watching television - If I didn&#039;t read your blog I owuld have missed both of these interesting commercials.

That being said I think that your point is well made - by taking the high road in their commercial and pointing out the diversity of users and (potentially) uses of PCs , Apple is quietly pushed to a secondary position in a non-snarky fashion, as PC users are celebrated for all of the things they do (with or without their Cs)

BTW as a complete disclaimer I am both a PC &amp; a Mac user - in my case a mixed marraige that is sort of fun  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen; Here I see the disadvantage of using Tivo for watching television &#8211; If I didn&#8217;t read your blog I owuld have missed both of these interesting commercials.</p>
<p>That being said I think that your point is well made &#8211; by taking the high road in their commercial and pointing out the diversity of users and (potentially) uses of PCs , Apple is quietly pushed to a secondary position in a non-snarky fashion, as PC users are celebrated for all of the things they do (with or without their Cs)</p>
<p>BTW as a complete disclaimer I am both a PC &amp; a Mac user &#8211; in my case a mixed marraige that is sort of fun  <img src='http://blog.redfin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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