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	<title>Comments on: Feds Bail Out, Install New Course of Shingles to Prevent Trickle-Down</title>
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		<title>By: mike.martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plotz!  The linguist in me is tickled.  Thanks Cek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plotz!  The linguist in me is tickled.  Thanks Cek!</p>
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		<title>By: Cek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, thoughtful suggestions.  I would plotz if any are actually included in the legislation.  We should have impeached when we had a chance; now there will be no accountability until the next Democratic sex scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, thoughtful suggestions.  I would plotz if any are actually included in the legislation.  We should have impeached when we had a chance; now there will be no accountability until the next Democratic sex scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: mike.martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Evan.  

In Norway, 9 out of 10 American breakfast cereals would be required to be labeled and categorized as &quot;candy.&quot;  Here, we say &quot;Part of a healthy breakfast.&quot;  Mortgage ads say &quot;You can own your dream home,&quot; and people go &quot;Where do I sign!&quot;  not &quot;What&#039;s the catch.&quot;  

People in trouble with credit are generally guilty of optimism :)  That&#039;s how human being work, and that&#039;s what these corporate con men have exploited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Evan.  </p>
<p>In Norway, 9 out of 10 American breakfast cereals would be required to be labeled and categorized as &#8220;candy.&#8221;  Here, we say &#8220;Part of a healthy breakfast.&#8221;  Mortgage ads say &#8220;You can own your dream home,&#8221; and people go &#8220;Where do I sign!&#8221;  not &#8220;What&#8217;s the catch.&#8221;  </p>
<p>People in trouble with credit are generally guilty of optimism <img src='http://blog.redfin.com/boston/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That&#8217;s how human being work, and that&#8217;s what these corporate con men have exploited.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this whole mess has taught us a lot about people and the way the financial system works.  We clearly need reform to prevent this kind of disaster again and to punish those who created it.  It is important that those who are having trouble paying their mortgages be given some sort of agreement to help them pay it off and decrease their suffering (as Mike had said).  Many people would want to pay off their homes and not just lose them, but I feel like they might not get that chance. Good blog, Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this whole mess has taught us a lot about people and the way the financial system works.  We clearly need reform to prevent this kind of disaster again and to punish those who created it.  It is important that those who are having trouble paying their mortgages be given some sort of agreement to help them pay it off and decrease their suffering (as Mike had said).  Many people would want to pay off their homes and not just lose them, but I feel like they might not get that chance. Good blog, Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: mike.martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the blogger I&#039;m referring to chose that statistic for exactly the reason David objects -- we expect to see people over 50 getting their ducks in a row and getting ready to retire, and so the statistic is disturbing.  Or, well, it should be, if you have any empathy at all.

I have to say again: this post is not in favor of a bailout -- the bailout has already happened.  I want to see lower inventory and I want to see prices hit a final bottom so we can start earning equity again.  More and more foreclosures probably mean your house is losing value, too, David.  At the very least, it would make it hard to sell if you lost your job, or if life through you another sort of curveball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the blogger I&#8217;m referring to chose that statistic for exactly the reason David objects &#8212; we expect to see people over 50 getting their ducks in a row and getting ready to retire, and so the statistic is disturbing.  Or, well, it should be, if you have any empathy at all.</p>
<p>I have to say again: this post is not in favor of a bailout &#8212; the bailout has already happened.  I want to see lower inventory and I want to see prices hit a final bottom so we can start earning equity again.  More and more foreclosures probably mean your house is losing value, too, David.  At the very least, it would make it hard to sell if you lost your job, or if life through you another sort of curveball.</p>
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		<title>By: Shorty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice David.  So the fixed income thing doesn&#039;t make you all sad and stuff?  Oh well, we can&#039;t all have a heart :).  Also, the FBI is apparently looking into a lot of fraud cases where people were flat-out lied to about how much their payments would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice David.  So the fixed income thing doesn&#8217;t make you all sad and stuff?  Oh well, we can&#8217;t all have a heart <img src='http://blog.redfin.com/boston/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Also, the FBI is apparently looking into a lot of fraud cases where people were flat-out lied to about how much their payments would be.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a dumb post.  People in ALL age brackets are having mortgage problems, and homeowners who are &gt; 50 have no excuse.  If you&#039;re &gt;50 you should have already be pretty far along into paying off a 30-yr fixed mortgage, and they probably bought their house back when real estate was cheap.  Seniors w/ problems paying off their mortgage probably used their house as an ATM w/ stupid exotic loans that they couldn&#039;t pay off. 

I took out a safe, low-risk mortgage and live fairly modestly, and now you&#039;re asking me for a bailout?  I hear the Pine St Inn is quite nice in wintertime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a dumb post.  People in ALL age brackets are having mortgage problems, and homeowners who are &gt; 50 have no excuse.  If you&#8217;re &gt;50 you should have already be pretty far along into paying off a 30-yr fixed mortgage, and they probably bought their house back when real estate was cheap.  Seniors w/ problems paying off their mortgage probably used their house as an ATM w/ stupid exotic loans that they couldn&#8217;t pay off. </p>
<p>I took out a safe, low-risk mortgage and live fairly modestly, and now you&#8217;re asking me for a bailout?  I hear the Pine St Inn is quite nice in wintertime.</p>
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		<title>By: mike.martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny, Shorty -- prosecute!  

See, Enron was clearly illegal, but in this case the banks are guilty of influence peddling, which has been renamed &quot;lobbying.&quot;  So by the time this scheme comes to light...it isn&#039;t illegal.  That&#039;s the beauty of deregulation -- do away with the laws and let the market take its course....

Now, my guess is that it would be the Justice Department&#039;s job to look into that influence peddling...but that&#039;s pretty much a social club these days, so probably no indictments to make us feel better about things.

But, yeah, in a perfect world, how about adding &quot;impeach&quot; to your list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny, Shorty &#8212; prosecute!  </p>
<p>See, Enron was clearly illegal, but in this case the banks are guilty of influence peddling, which has been renamed &#8220;lobbying.&#8221;  So by the time this scheme comes to light&#8230;it isn&#8217;t illegal.  That&#8217;s the beauty of deregulation &#8212; do away with the laws and let the market take its course&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now, my guess is that it would be the Justice Department&#8217;s job to look into that influence peddling&#8230;but that&#8217;s pretty much a social club these days, so probably no indictments to make us feel better about things.</p>
<p>But, yeah, in a perfect world, how about adding &#8220;impeach&#8221; to your list?</p>
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		<title>By: Shorty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Mike.  Reform, regulate and prosecute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Mike.  Reform, regulate and prosecute.</p>
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		<title>By: mike.martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do so love Yiddish!  Thanks, Tom.

Anyone have an idea of how much a bank really loses on each foreclosure?  In my experience it looks like they take a hit of about 30% on the property.  Of course, that isn&#039;t counting the 3 or 4 or more years of interest-only payments they&#039;ve collected....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do so love Yiddish!  Thanks, Tom.</p>
<p>Anyone have an idea of how much a bank really loses on each foreclosure?  In my experience it looks like they take a hit of about 30% on the property.  Of course, that isn&#8217;t counting the 3 or 4 or more years of interest-only payments they&#8217;ve collected&#8230;.</p>
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