September 17, 2008

One Scary Collapse After Another

It’s been quite a week.  First, venerable giant Merrill Lynch (not so “bullish” anymore) goes down in flames, with Bank of America stepping in to pick up the pieces.  Then 158-year-old Wall Street firm Lehman Bros. announced it was bankrupt.  And insurance company AIG revealed that it needed billions in cash to stay afloat.bull1 One Scary Collapse After Another

After days of insisting that it would not bail out AIG, on Tuesday night Fed officials did an about-face, saying the U.S. government would step in to save the company, the L.A. Times reported on its Web site.

In the largest single financial intervention in the nation’s history and a measure of the depths of America’s financial crisis, the Federal Reserve will loan insurance giant American International Group Inc. $85 billion to finance the company’s likely liquidation over the next two years, people familiar with the decision said tonight.

Apparently, the Fed decided that the risk of not acting was too great:

Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke acted after AIG, the world’s largest insurer, told the government that without aid the company would file for bankruptcy tonight, a move that Fed officials concluded would send devastating ripples through the global financial system and jeopardize economies around the world.

A few months back, I posted about a guy in Florida who was predicting a virtual collapse of the U.S. financial system. At least one reader thought it was alarmist and over the top.  Here are some excerpts:

I was going to call this “Banks March Us Into Depression,” or maybe more fitting is . . . “Complete Collapse of US Banking System.”  Folks, that is what we are looking at.   I don’t see any way around it.

Banks cannot afford to take 50-75% hits on mortgages, and that is exactly what is happening.  The precipice is here, and we are on it.  Recent reports about home sales rebounding are insignificant, because no one is accurately describing the growing inventory build-up.  Banks simply don’t have the margins to deal with this crisis.  And for that reason, we will see massive bank failures and this will snowball into a complete economic meltdown. 

The banks will fail, just as they failed in 1929 . . . but worse because this time some of this leverage is as high as 40:1.  Insurance?  Where is that going to come from?  There is no insurance that can cover the cost of the coming bank failure, unless we just print more money.

What’s next?  Well, Washington Mutual, a big bank with national name recognition, was just downgraded to junk-bond status, thanks to its reported $240 billion in real estate loans. Its stock is trading at around $2 a share. Whoo-hoo!

I’d like to hear what some of you are thinking.  Are you worried?  Are you taking steps to safeguard your finances?  Or do you think this whole thing is overblown?

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  • Hi, all,

    Andrew Waite is head of Personal Real Estate Investor magazine, so as some of you noted, he has a vested interest the health of the real estate market. Andrew, I don't think you do yourself a lot of good with your posts. They come across as condescending and, frankly, a bit out there.

    Buying real estate is a personal decision. But there are realities in the market that can't be ignored, like that Zillow.com estimates that 71% of Los Angeles-area homes purchased in 2006 and 56% of homes bought in 2007 are now worth less than their mortgage amounts -- that was from an L.A. Times story today.

    Maybe professional investors and flippers like Andrew know how to make money in a market like this, but it's definitely not for amateurs.

    Thanks for commenting, everyone.
  • Lissa
    Depends where that 1,400sq foot home is.

    In many areas, they aren't ever going to even be $500k.
  • Jose
    Tell those who purchased a 1400 square foot home for 500k in 2005/2006 to sleep well when there is 2200 square foot remodeled home next door selling for 350k. Unless you house is paid for, the value is relevant because there is a substantial difference in the mortgage payments of a 500k dollar loan to a 350k dollar loan.
  • a
    Andrew Waite said:

    "This all makes fungible assets (Cindy: this means real estate) really attractive."

    The most recent reports are saying that the median price of homes in southern California fell 34% year-over-year. An asset that decreases 34% in a year is not a very good investment. Renting for an additional year rather than buying would have saved the average homowner $120,000 last year. At this point I think it's safe to say that anyone who calls real estate a good investment is desperately trying to sell something.

    Also, you should look up the definition of "fungible". The word doesn't mean what you think it means. An asset that is truly fungible is dollar bills, which you would have an additional 120,000 of if you hadn't bought real estate last year.
  • My father is brilliant, he calls me chicken little... He says the government will print more money... inflation... that's the only way out of this mess.

    I am just hoping that some type of government regulation is put in play so that we don't have a repeat of this fiasco in another decade or so.
  • Janet
    Whoo-hoo! Good one, that was funny.

    I am quite alarmed. My friends and family think I'm being a drama queen. I think they are putting their heads in the sand.

    Our retirement annuity is not "producing" like it once was.
  • This all makes fungible assets (Cindy: this means real estate) really attractive.

    The message here is Wall Street laid a goose egg when they were meant to be husbanding the national nest egg. These guys (current crop) cannot be trusted to manage a very complex environment as each generation (mostly turned over every ten years) forgets the last lesson. You cannot defy economic gravity.

    The joke here is this: Wall St has longed to take over Fannie and Freddie as they believed trading in the secondary mortgage business is their God given right. When they couldn't (for various sound and now proven reasons) they set up their own casino....who ever heard of detaching security from the mortgage paper and slicing the paper up five ways? ("It was the fees, stupid")

    Here is the humor: The credit body is still in tact. It is NOT marked to market as the idiot commentators would have you believe as less than 5% pf the housing market is ever in trade in a twelve month period. It is valued at the time a home owner sells. A little planning related to most human behavior and historic house holds means 90% of the housing stock in the US will not be near sale in the next two years and some of it not for twenty years.......back to bed and sleep tight, your house value is irrelevant unless your are forced to sell.

    This problem is a transaction volume problem, not an asset value problem if you are not in the market or a professional.

    With a little planning, "your sky need not fall."

    Best: Andrew Waite
    www.PersonalRealEstateInvestor...
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