Comments on: More Controversy over the Orange County Great Park Development: What Else is New?

By: marsha

marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:37:28 +0000

Just got back from El Toro to verify the photo on newsoc.org web site. Yep, their reporting is spot on–the photo is exactly what I saw at El Toro just outside of what used to be called gate 2. The contractor has a sign out there labeled ‘ERRG’, a Navy contractor hired to do the Navy’s “dirty work”.

By: marsha

marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:00:00 +0000

Sorry, friend, I’d like to see the park work as well. As far as the photo is concerned, i just went to the newsoc.org site, and it’s there. My neighbor and I plan to take our cameras out there this afternoon to verify. I think the only reason the registere and times haven’t thus far said anything about the matter is because their editors won’t let them. Nothing new there.

By: Marsha Marsha Marsha

Marsha Marsha Marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:40:20 +0000

I’m sure you’re some paid shill for the anti-great part politicos in Irvine, they’re the only people who have any motivation to spread these lies.

I doubt very highly that a map markes “newsoc.org” is displayed in the library, even so, accepting your theories means that everyone else involved, the city, the navy, lennar, etc. is lying and that an anonymous website are the only ones who are telling the truth.

Also, where are these photos the site keeps promising to post? This is typical of lying blogs, “I have these great photos I would love to post, but somehow I can’t, even though I run a website that claims to have staff members.” How hard is it to post pictures? Do you need to borrow a scanner?

Go tell your lies somewhere else and stop trying to destroy our Park!

By: marsha

marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:23:28 +0000

Here, let me help more by saying this: The binder with the maps in it is kept behind the reference desk at the Heritage Park Library at the corner of Yale and Walnut in the city of Irvine. Why? The library folks said they have had so many people coming in to see the data they are afraid somebody may try to steal the binder. So be sure to ask for the ‘El Toro’ binder that’s kept at the reference desk. The fold-out maps are in the back of the binder.

By: marsha

marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:16:38 +0000

You’re right–it can be copied and shared just like the newsoc.org folks have already done. If you look at the plume map, it’s an exact copy of what we saw at the library. If you don’t want to believe, go to the libary–it’s all there. Why would I direct you there is there was some effort to manipulate the info? Are you afraid of what you might see?

By: Tired of Lies

Tired of Lies — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:04:54 +0000

The great thing about the internet is that information can be posted and shared. If this information is in the library, it can be checked out or copied and then scanned in to be posted.

No reason why someone couldn’t/wouldn’t do that if it was true. Just ignore, probably some political trick by airport supporters who refuse to acknowledge their ban plan is dead

I think the X-Files movie just came out. I’ll go see that for my conspiracy theories.

By: marsha

marsha — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:51:50 +0000

Sylvia: If you want to be recognized as having credibility, I encourage you to take a trip to the library to see the data like I and my neighbors have. We were there again last night and ran into a camera crew from the media. To say newsOC.org’s info is “convoluted” without making the effort to see the data yourself really makes me wonder about you and your site. Please don’t be like others who just try to cast things aside without making a personal effort to see the facts. The library guy said others are coming in and looking at the data. Once you see it, you’ll be shocked at what’s really going on.

By: Sylvia Walker

Sylvia Walker — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:01:51 +0000

Now that I have had some time to read newsOC in more depth, I can say that I find it uses manipulated data and convoluted thinking. Even information from a valid source such as the library can be manipulated and used in convoluted reasoning. Also, the sources are rather mysterious (see my questions in the post above).

I am going to leave this here for now, but, this being a political season (and we certainly have those in Irvine), I have a feeling that there are those that will be bringing this up again.

By: Marsha

Marsha — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:28:31 +0000

NewsOC posted a memo on their site from El Toro officials that says the Irvine water is undrinkable. Looks like Irvine and others HAVE been lying about the safety of their water.

By: marsha

marsha — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:00:00 +0000

Just watch newsoc.org for more info on this. They’re information is credible; it comes right from the data at the library, etc.