September 16, 2007

SF and Daly City: Curious Side Effect of Slumping Sales: Soaring Rents

8400749 SF and Daly City: Curious Side Effect of Slumping Sales: Soaring RentsI am the Redfin blogger acting as voice for the renter. I think I might be the only one of us SF Bay Area writers who does not already own something. I guess that gives us a nice spectrum of housing insight; unfortunately for me, I’m handling the would-be/first time buyer side of that spectrum.

Last year at this time, my man and I were trying to buy a house. We were nearly talked into a $650,000 condo with a really sweet 1 year ARM that would have had us paying no more than our then current rent. We got scared off. Actually, my man did. He’s less inclined to be charmed by sexy master bedrooms with huge skylights, seafoam tiles in the bathroom, a chef’s kitchen with adorable stacked washer/dryer cleverly hidden in a pantry. He wanted to know what the payment would be when the ARM expired.

No one would tell us in exact terms. So we sat down with a calculator and a dictionary to help us wade through realtor/broker-ese. Our payments, we found, would be $3200, not including taxes, insurance, or the HOA fee (and possible assessments to come down the line). If we’d have been charmed by that kitchen with its evil-temptress stacked washer, we’d be in foreclosure right now.

So, we rent. Still. But I watch the market with an eagle eye. I can’t wait to tell my landlord exactly what I think about her “house rules.” I can’t wait to sink my hands into the earth of my own garden. (I can, I can, I will make tomatoes grow in the SF fog.)

Interestingly, from the renter’s standpoint, this currently turbulent market is not the fix we have been looking for. We might see housing prices falling, but we also see the ability to get a loan falling. In the meantime, rents are soaring. Carol Lloyd, San Francisco Chronicle Real Estate columnist writes that “in the past few months, the rents seem to have shot up. Average one-bedrooms, which hovered around $1,770 between September 2006 and April 2007, now go for about $1,980. And though two-bedroom prices dropped from about $2,600 in October to about $2,400 in February, they have since catapulted up to more than $2,900. Three-bedrooms, which hit an annual bottom at around $2,950 in November, rose to around $3,800 in August.”

Why? Lloyd echoes my confusion when she writes

I had always assumed that people’s inability to buy expensive homes (and the correlative decline in the real estate market) would go hand in hand with people’s inability to afford outrageous rents (and a correlative fall in rental rates). But James Wavro, a broker specializing in San Francisco rentals, disagrees.

“The rational explanation is that as the real estate market softens, the rental market would take off,” says Wavro, founder of J. Wavro Associates, a company that specializes in high-end residential rentals and leasing.

Kelly Zito, in another SFgate.com article, agrees:

A strong economy, uncertainty in the mortgage business, a flood of apartment conversions to tenancies-in-common and the start of the school year have joined to create one of the most competitive rental markets in years.

So, here I am, the renter, hoping to be the buyer. Are crazy rents (mine is sure to go up when the lease expires) a good reason to try to buy? Can we buy? Should we? Hard to say. For now I guess those tomato plants will have to wait.


  • anna

    congrats, Jim. You might be right, provided the buyer has 20% down and (in my thinking) is not buying into an interest only payment that will explode later.

  • Jim

    I just bought a condo in SF and managed to get a great mortgage rate on the dip in late January. I'm very happy to have done it but still think that renting in SF is a great option if you're lucky enough to have granfathered in your rent from several to many years back. The down side is of course that you're then locked-in to that rental and your rent vs. buy calculations will always be affected by the existing cheap deal you have. If you're fresh to the city however, buying may be a good option right now as rental rates are finally getting to a point where the math for buying looks increasingly reasonable.

  • Ron

    Scott provides a good example why the whole "don't buy, just rent for the next 30 years" argument doesn't really work. As a landlord, you want to turn over your renters every two or max three years, so that you can reset your rents to market. This is true without rent control; you just can't pass on more than 2 or 3% to your tenants without pissing them off. So, it's better to get them out after a couple of years and raise the rent. He also is a good example why more rental units won't be coming to market...to a landlord, Scott is a parasite (sorry, buddy). There is no way a landlord is going to let a family stay in a nice rental house for the long term.

    To me it seems odd to hear people say, as Jenny did, "I did the right thing and rented." If prices are going up 15% a year, for several years, and you can afford to buy, it's not clear how renting is automatically the "right" thing to do. After three years, prices are 50% higher. For renting to be the right thing, you would need prices to come down more than 50% now, otherwise, where is your "deal" on renting? Isn't this like saying "inflation is shooting through the roof. I think I will put my cash in my mattress so it will be safe."

    We may get drops, but it's hard to see 50% in many areas. That kind of drop requires people to just start dumping their house if the market softens. If someone doesn't need to move, why would they dump their house? Instead, they just keep paying the mortgage and wait for prices to come back in a couple of years. That is more likely to happen than a mass of well-employed homeowners just randomly dumping their houses to turn a paper loss into a real loss.

    Heck, my house is now worth ~30% more than what I paid 2.5 years ago. If I want to buy another and somehow the market price has dropped more than 30%, I'll just rent it out for $6000 a month rather than take the loss. After a year or two of an extra $72k coming in, I'll sell it and make money. But, at that rental price, it doesn't really do anything for the "I rented, so where's my cheap house" crowd.

  • scott.h

    I'm in the same boat as well. If you live in SF, your landlord can only raise your rent by 1.5% a year, so as long as you don't need to move, you shouldn't be hurt by rising rents. Even once your original lease is up, it's still pretty tough for your LL to get rid of you. We've been renting the same place for over 4 years and our rent is locked well below market rates.

    Jenny: as long as you're not looking for a 30 year fixed loan (which is still really expensive), shop around a bit on the mortgages. I've found rates in the low 6s that are fixed for as long as 7 years.

  • jenny.pisillo

    Anna - count me in as another renter. (I don't count the condo I still own in NJ as making me a homeowner as we are trying to get out of it as fast as we can now that we are back in the bay.)

    I feel your pain about being crazy. I am hoping to buy as well, but don't get a sense that the drop in the number of home sales have really affected the prices all that much...at least not in Marin. So sometimes I just think what is the lesser of both evils?

    My husband and I could have bought too with an exotic mortgage, but we knew better, like your story. I do have to admit that it frustrates me a bit to read about all this subprime mess and the talk about the govt or another agency coming in to bail folks out so they can keep their homes. Meanwhile, folks like you and I who made the "right" decision - we sat on the sidelines and waited. We get no help and yet we still don't enjoy the benefits of homeownership. And now the subprime blowup is making it more expensive for the truly qualified candidates to get a mortgage. My husband and I have very, very good credit scores (don't mean to brag, but just trying to demonstrate a point) and last week as I called to check what we could get, and because we would want a jumbo mortgage, the interest is now 7.125%!!

    I'm in your same boat... what's less crazy?

  • Anna

    I know- this is what scares me. Because effectively then I'm crazy to buy right now, but also crazy to rent. So, where does that leave renters like myself and Tracey and the other approximatley 80% of those renting in SF and surrounding areas?

  • Ron

    There is no way that enough rental units (now condos, townhouses, 2/1 and 3/2 homes) are going to come back on the market to drop rents. On the peninsula, you are looking at making 3-4% return if you buy a place and rent it out now - just rent, not counting on appreciation. The numbers just don't work. While there will be price drops, you aren't going to get 20% drops in nice areas with solid jobs, and so the return on rentals isn't there. The net effect is that places on the market won't get bought and rented out; the rental stock that's there now is what you have to deal with.

    Which is great for a current landlord; I can attest that rents are indeed spiking. I listed one of my places recently and had 15 inquiries within the first hour on Craigslist. And I rented it in one day for 20% more than I had 16 months earlier. Everyone who came by lamented that there was nothing available at all. This was for a 3/2 townhouse for $3200, by the way. Nearly half of the applicants owned homes in Menlo or Palo Alto and were rebuilding and needed a place to live for a year or so. They could easily swing an extra $4k in rent on top of what their Menlo Park house was costing.

    Good luck with that "You're crazy to buy, it's so much cheaper to rent" strategy...

  • Tracey Taylor

    You are not a lone renter. I too rent a house with a view to buying -- eventually. I'm not sure when that will be but I am sure glad I didn't buy when we moved to Berkeley two years ago.

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