November 10, 2007

Should There Be A Bail Out?

I have a good deal of concern on the state of the economy and what’s been happening with the mortgage markets and the subprime loan industry.  I hope and wish for the benefit of the future that our economy comes to a gradual slow down instead of a complete bust and recession.  But an article on CNN Money recently touched a nerve that I’ve been wrestling with in this subprime mess:  Should there be a bail out of subprime borrowers and other borrowers who stretched a bit white flag sinking boat Should There Be A Bail Out?beyond their means?

Recently, Countrywide announced a program to restructure the loans of its troubled borrowers.  It provides a fixed interest rate as low as 5.25% to some of its deliquent clients as their rates shoot up to astronomical and unmanageable levels.  Whoa!  That’s currently 1-1.5% less than what you can currently get from the market.  And what about those borrowers, who 2 years ago, chose the fixed rate, slightly more expensive route?  They paid more two years ago because they had no “teaser” rate and now with these loan work outs, their rates are still higher than the 5.25%.  Never been in the penalty box, but always penalized. 

The article highlights the frustrations of folks, like me, who find this a bit unfair.  During the heyday of the housing market, when everybody around me were snatching up homes, I chose to be cautious and not get myself into a situation that didn’t seem palatable.  I made it a point to learn about how adjustable rate, interest only, negative amortization, etc.  mortgages all work.  Many articles I have read point to the fact that many of the borrowers of these type of loans didn’t understand the terms or their mortgage brokers didn’t tell them about how it really works.  As the biggest financial decision of most Americans, shouldn’t we make sure we understand the consequences and impact? 

I did.  I understood that yes, I could afford that no down payment, $800,000 mortgage for the first 2-3 years.  But after the reset, I determined there was no way my income could support my housing payment, unless I somehow miraculously won the lottery.  It’s funny how in 7th grade, my jr. high school made us repeat the line, “I am responsible for myself,” everyday for what seemed like an eternity as part of a “development” module in home room.  But, it seemed like it had an impact.  Taking the time to understand the what it all meant, I chose not to spend and live beyond my means. 

The big question posed in the article and one that I agree with is:

“Why should help be given, and possible taxpayer money spent, to home owners in trouble?”

What about help and assistance given to those who understood and played by the rules.  What do you think?  Should there be a bail out?  Is this fair?


  • Rick
    Hi Jenny,

    I don't know how prevalent such a view is, but with all the books such as "Freakonomics," "Undercover Economics," "Economic Naturalist" etc. coming out, I would imagine more people might think along these lines. As a homeowner, I'd much prefer to have more wealth than to have some strangers "learn their lesson."

    Seems like one of the quirks of the bay area is that our houses are so expensive that nearly anything you do to keep the value up will be worth more than a tax increase on your income. For example, I make a pretty good salary, but an extra 1% on the value of my home blows away an extra 1% tax on my income.
  • dave peck
    Dear Jenny,
    Good posting. I've been in real estate for 30 years and have seen a few of these ups and downs.
    I suspect there are VERY few of Countrywide's loans where they have reduced to below market rates. The little anecdotal info I've heard is that when you call them to "restructure" you can't even get anyone to answer the phone.
    Seems like these cycles recur and recur (remember the 80's Savings and Loan similarity).
    I don't know what the answer to it is--but it does seem logical that lending money without even knowing if the person has a job isn't too good an idea.

    Best,
    DP
  • Thank you both for your comments. I appreciate hearing others perspective and learning from them.
    Susan - I agree that those who stayed out of the mess shouldn't be penalized. Maybe there is some way a rate reduction can be offered to those too. Like my student loans - after my first 48 months of on time payments, I get a 1/4% off the rate for the remaining life of the loan. Not a 1% drop, but some type of acknowledgement would be nice.
    Rick - yours is particularly interesting. I must admit I have not evaluated this from that angle. There is definitelymerit to your comments and framework. Do you know if this is an opinion that is quite prevalent?
  • Rick
    Good post, but you are looking at it only from the morality view. There is a self-interest view as well, which is: if the taxes you'd pay for a bailout are less than the drop in home value that the bailout would prevent, you should prefer the bailout.

    If I can pay $5,000 in new taxes to prevent an extra 1% drop in market prices, I'd do it. 1% of my house value is $15,000, so I am $10,000 better off when I go to sell in the next six months. Of course, such a calculation would be difficult to make, but I'm just saying that there might be a reason to support this beyond "it's a nice thing to do."
  • Susan Brady
    Good thought-provoking article Jenny. Thank you. I have oftened wondered this myself. How the industry (or the government, for that matter) allowed this to happen is beyond me. With all the forecasting that goes on in financial circles, someone knew this was coming. And while buyers should always arm themselves with enough knowledge to make a decision, I believe that non-native speakers and others may have been sweet-talked into these loans. I fully agree that the lenders should offer to convert the subprime loans to standard loans, for the sake of the market and economy, but I am not convinced that it should be at a reduced rate. Those of us wise enough to stay out of the debacle should not be penalized.
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