January 3, 2008

SF and Daly City: Of Skyscrapers and Stratification

skyscrapers SF and Daly City: Of Skyscrapers and Stratification “San Francisco is changing so rapidly some say the San Franciscans of 2007 won’t recognize the place in five years,” warns Carl Nolte of The Chronicle. These changes are seen in parts of the city most of us had written off: South Beach, China Basin, Dogpatch- once scrappy areas that are now giving birth to giant towers of luxury condos, boutique shops, and expensive restaurants.

Of course, such change is on the one hand exciting. No one could look at One Rincon Hill and think “boring!” Still, Nolte points out that “some experts worry that a new San Francisco of high-rises and fine living will be a city of the very rich and very poor, a boutique city and not a real one….. less diverse [economically] and to some extent less racially and ethnically diverse.”  In other words, still left out in the cold (and the rental market is cold hearted indeed), the middle classes will eventually give up on SF, and flee for parts more suburban, or for cities less rarified.

Think it can’t happen? It’s happening right now in New York, where long time Manhattanites are, according to The New York Times, “discovering that with Manhattan’s high apartment prices, they can cash out and get much more for their money outside the city, where the inventory is growing and the prices are falling.”

A similar phenomenon is happening in the Bay Area, since in both Daly City and Oakland– this city’s nearest “suburban” options, prices are falling (see Front Steps and Housing Predictor), not to mention the slumps in cities furthur afield. Concievably then, people who struggle to rent (or own) an overpriced one bedroom in SF will start to see the appeal of owning (or renting) an entire, multi-bedroom single family home for the same price.

Socketsite also throws in an interesting question: “How will falling prices outside of San Francisco proper (or even in the outer districts) impact the demand curve (and prices) throughout the rest of the city?” Thus, if the demand for housing in SF falls off, prices too might fall off. But who’ll be left to enjoy that?

San Francisco Supervisors do have some control of what gets built, where, and how much it will sell for. Ostensibly, they care what we, their constituents, have to say about new construction and urban planning that responds to the needs of ALL of its residents. Thanks to Socketsite commenter “Jamie,” I was reminded that the next meeting of the Board is January 8. 

See you there? 

Painting: Emanuel Leplin “Skyscapers”


  • anna

    Karen: I so agree, and I think that diversity (or its dearth), which we are already losing, is what Foge is lamenting. I know that many people feel any move by government to regulate or help with housing is "socialist," but in some cases, especially in such an expensive city, it seems almost capitalist: keep your famiiles, your samll businesses, your social servants- keep them long term. This way, they invest and committ and give back to the city that gives something to them.

  • Karen

    San Francisco, like all cities, needs a middleclass. We need small business owners, we need teachers, we need newspaper reporters, we need policemen, the diversity of City Life is what makes San Francisco so exciting. We need to keep the heart in San Francisco. Everyone should take up the challenge.

  • anna

    Thanks for your comments, everyone. A little healthy debate makes from some interesting reading, no? And for Ron: I could not agree more and actually posted a similarly themed blog addressing SF's hostility to middle-class business. Would love it if you would take a look, and maybe commment if so moved.

    http://sfbay.redfin.com/blog/2...

  • Ron

    Thank you MS Hibble for your timely posting. Do not forget that included in your middle class are the small business owners that employ and drive the SF economy.
    In a society where every decision is based on economics, and short memory, it is imperative that we understand the consequence of our choices. Perhaps, the recent events in Iowa offer some hope.
    Challenge your supervisors on Jan 8. Remind them that what goes up must come down.

  • Foge

    It's really sad to see what is happening here in SF. I am an SF native, and have seen the changes. I think one really has to travel to cities like Rome, Amsterdam or Paris to really see what it means for a city to have character. SF had it once, and it is long gone. What was SF architectually? Victorians and Marina style buildings. The new look is almost reminiscent of Tokyo. The diversity is so far gone. BTW-SW-someone tried to rob my SF apt. and he was from Pacifica.

  • AF

    Not being able to aford a 1/2 million dollar studio does not make you a criminal. And in fact, part of what is loveable about San Francisco is its diversity - social, economic, racial, religious etc. There are those of us that would just rather rent in a city that we love, than buy in a cookie cutter suburb that we cannot identify with. And then there is always hope that some day, if the market bottoms and you have all of your ducks in a row that you can somehow and someway get in.

  • anna

    SW, not that I think the rich or the poor are by nature more criminal than the middle class, but I am really talking about teachers, cops, firefighters, artists, public servants. These are the middle classes who work so hard only to be shut out, yet again, bu new housing developments. We won't stay forever, toiling away just so we can rent and stay childless because we can't afford good schools or homes of our own. Other cities or towns offer more, in the end, than SF- though it kills me to say it since, sincerely, this is where my heart is.

    I'll have to leave part of that heart here, just like the song goes, when I finally realize that the city does not love me back.

  • Gogo

    Hmmm...even if you had a house in Daly City- you'd still be living in Daly City. On the other hand, I don't want my city made up of the richy rich and the poorest poor with no room for me in the middle.

  • S.W.

    I personally think that such change means less crime; as those elements that committ crime can no longer live here, the city gets safer.

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