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	<title>Comments on: Lenders Impose &#8220;Declining Markets&#8221; Restrictions in Some Areas</title>
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		<title>By: Fannie and Freddie Abandon &#8220;Declining Markets&#8221; Policy &#124; Redfin San Francisco Sweet Digs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fannie and Freddie Abandon &#8220;Declining Markets&#8221; Policy &#124; Redfin San Francisco Sweet Digs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a followup to my previous post on February 5 regarding &#8220;declining markets&#8221; restrictions, it appears that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have reversed course and given up on this method, as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a followup to my previous post on February 5 regarding &#8220;declining markets&#8221; restrictions, it appears that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have reversed course and given up on this method, as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sting, I highly doubt you can appeal their decision to require you to put 5% down. In light on the current housing situation, requiring a down payment is prudent on the bank&#039;s part.

The declining markets approach being utilized by some banks is fairly consistent. Alameda/Contra Costa are being hit hard, whereas SF, Marin, San Mateo have not yet (too bad). 

I think the only reason you are being allowed to put 5% down instead of 10% is due to the fact you are dealing with a conforming loan under $417k.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sting, I highly doubt you can appeal their decision to require you to put 5% down. In light on the current housing situation, requiring a down payment is prudent on the bank&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>The declining markets approach being utilized by some banks is fairly consistent. Alameda/Contra Costa are being hit hard, whereas SF, Marin, San Mateo have not yet (too bad). </p>
<p>I think the only reason you are being allowed to put 5% down instead of 10% is due to the fact you are dealing with a conforming loan under $417k.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: STING</title>
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		<dc:creator>STING</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And is there any different downpayment requirement if I look at elsewhere like Emeryville or South San Francisco? I thought lenders are pretty loose on 1st time homebuyers, but looks like it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And is there any different downpayment requirement if I look at elsewhere like Emeryville or South San Francisco? I thought lenders are pretty loose on 1st time homebuyers, but looks like it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: STING</title>
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		<dc:creator>STING</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear ALL,

I have a question. I am currently placing an offer on a short sale condo/townhouse in Daly City which cost only $319K (I offered $310K.) Wachovia &amp; GMAC pre approved me &amp; my gf for 100% financing but since Wachovia considered Daly City a declining market plus the listing has been on the market for a year almost, they ask me for 5% down. I wonder if GMAC will require the same downpayment while underwriting my final approval. Do you think I can appeal their decision saying that it&#039;s just listed as 2 in your soft market chart vs other counties listed as 4?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear ALL,</p>
<p>I have a question. I am currently placing an offer on a short sale condo/townhouse in Daly City which cost only $319K (I offered $310K.) Wachovia &amp; GMAC pre approved me &amp; my gf for 100% financing but since Wachovia considered Daly City a declining market plus the listing has been on the market for a year almost, they ask me for 5% down. I wonder if GMAC will require the same downpayment while underwriting my final approval. Do you think I can appeal their decision saying that it&#8217;s just listed as 2 in your soft market chart vs other counties listed as 4?</p>
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		<title>By: David Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I like your style. You sound like one of the few active lookers who actually fully understand what is going on. If you are flexible and patient in this downward market, you can definitely get a great deal. I think by the end of 08 most homeowners (esp in many parts of Oakland) will realize their big assets are losing &quot;value&quot; by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I like your style. You sound like one of the few active lookers who actually fully understand what is going on. If you are flexible and patient in this downward market, you can definitely get a great deal. I think by the end of 08 most homeowners (esp in many parts of Oakland) will realize their big assets are losing &#8220;value&#8221; by the day.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS.  That also means I&#039;m looking in Oakland and San Leandro.  SL is ok, little too burby for my tastes, but it&#039;s relatively safe and convenient to both SF and the Peninsula (and the South Bay), where my work often takes me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS.  That also means I&#8217;m looking in Oakland and San Leandro.  SL is ok, little too burby for my tastes, but it&#8217;s relatively safe and convenient to both SF and the Peninsula (and the South Bay), where my work often takes me.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actively looking in the East Bay.  Generally, I&#039;m looking for a 3 BR house where my payments would &quot;make sense&quot; relative to renting.  

It&#039;s not a measure of how much I can pay--I sold my house in Chicago for just under $600,000 and moved back here, so I have plenty of money for a down payment (I had an &quot;old fashioned mortgage&quot; with a down payment).  But I refuse to overpay for an asset, be it a stock, bond or real estate.

Since rent is so much cheaper here than my old neighborhood in Chicago (yes really), that means I&#039;m looking for a house in the $400-$450K range, maybe a little higher if it&#039;s justifiable (view, big lot, good schools).  For now that means a lot of bank-owned properties as &quot;real human;)&quot; sellers haven&#039;t generally moved to the &quot;acceptance&quot; phase of the fact that their house is not worth whatever they dreamed it was in 2005.

But that&#039;ll come.  So I&#039;m not rushing out there, and if I don&#039;t get a bank (or person) to &quot;hit my bid,&quot; I just wait a week and voila&#039; there&#039;s another REO house or distressed seller&#039;s house to look at.

Those are my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actively looking in the East Bay.  Generally, I&#8217;m looking for a 3 BR house where my payments would &#8220;make sense&#8221; relative to renting.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a measure of how much I can pay&#8211;I sold my house in Chicago for just under $600,000 and moved back here, so I have plenty of money for a down payment (I had an &#8220;old fashioned mortgage&#8221; with a down payment).  But I refuse to overpay for an asset, be it a stock, bond or real estate.</p>
<p>Since rent is so much cheaper here than my old neighborhood in Chicago (yes really), that means I&#8217;m looking for a house in the $400-$450K range, maybe a little higher if it&#8217;s justifiable (view, big lot, good schools).  For now that means a lot of bank-owned properties as &#8220;real human;)&#8221; sellers haven&#8217;t generally moved to the &#8220;acceptance&#8221; phase of the fact that their house is not worth whatever they dreamed it was in 2005.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;ll come.  So I&#8217;m not rushing out there, and if I don&#8217;t get a bank (or person) to &#8220;hit my bid,&#8221; I just wait a week and voila&#8217; there&#8217;s another REO house or distressed seller&#8217;s house to look at.</p>
<p>Those are my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: david gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>david gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stim package just passed as you may know now, and it did include the conforming loan increase to $729,750.

While I believe this doesn&#039;t do much in the way of stimulation and helping the homeowners who need help (and I don&#039;t advocate that anyway) - there is talk now that Fannie/Freddie are under pressure to ease their guidelines to allow more to actually qualify for their programs. That would be another huge mistake, but at least personally, help many of my friends who are looking to refi or purchase before end of 08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stim package just passed as you may know now, and it did include the conforming loan increase to $729,750.</p>
<p>While I believe this doesn&#8217;t do much in the way of stimulation and helping the homeowners who need help (and I don&#8217;t advocate that anyway) &#8211; there is talk now that Fannie/Freddie are under pressure to ease their guidelines to allow more to actually qualify for their programs. That would be another huge mistake, but at least personally, help many of my friends who are looking to refi or purchase before end of 08.</p>
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		<title>By: pop</title>
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		<dc:creator>pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks D.G. and David. Good to know.

Any thoughts on my third question above? Although perhaps that can&#039;t be answered until the Stim package is actually passed and banks have assessed the impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks D.G. and David. Good to know.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on my third question above? Although perhaps that can&#8217;t be answered until the Stim package is actually passed and banks have assessed the impact.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pop,

I did confirm with Chase that the terms are still the same still even in the declining markets - just the add&#039;l 5% down requirement. Wonder if that will last...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop,</p>
<p>I did confirm with Chase that the terms are still the same still even in the declining markets &#8211; just the add&#8217;l 5% down requirement. Wonder if that will last&#8230;</p>
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