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	<title>Comments on: Just Walk Away, Renee&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Janis Mara</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3348</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s not depressing, I think most people vastly prefer having some idea of what is in store, because then you can adjust to it and plan. Your analysis makes a lot of sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not depressing, I think most people vastly prefer having some idea of what is in store, because then you can adjust to it and plan. Your analysis makes a lot of sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, officially the last one started in 2001 and was over by 2002.

I think this one will last longer; will be more like the early &#039;90&#039;s, or longer than that (91-93, if I remember right).  It&#039;s kind of reminiscent of that, with a bit of the &#039;70&#039;s stagflation thrown in for good measure.  In the &#039;90&#039;s we had a R.E. bust, S&amp;L crisis, spiking oil and increased unemployment+McJobs.  This time, the credit crunch is bigger, the R.E. bust is bigger, and oil has spiked up more.  Jobs are just beginning to decline, so I think we have at least another 2 years to go.  Personally, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see 2005 prices in R.E. for years; 2012-2014 at the earliest.  We won&#039;t see new stock market highs until 2011 at the earliest.  And unemployment won&#039;t reach 1999 highs until the Boomers retire.  Hate to be so negative, but that&#039;s what I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, officially the last one started in 2001 and was over by 2002.</p>
<p>I think this one will last longer; will be more like the early &#8217;90&#8242;s, or longer than that (91-93, if I remember right).  It&#8217;s kind of reminiscent of that, with a bit of the &#8217;70&#8242;s stagflation thrown in for good measure.  In the &#8217;90&#8242;s we had a R.E. bust, S&amp;L crisis, spiking oil and increased unemployment+McJobs.  This time, the credit crunch is bigger, the R.E. bust is bigger, and oil has spiked up more.  Jobs are just beginning to decline, so I think we have at least another 2 years to go.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see 2005 prices in R.E. for years; 2012-2014 at the earliest.  We won&#8217;t see new stock market highs until 2011 at the earliest.  And unemployment won&#8217;t reach 1999 highs until the Boomers retire.  Hate to be so negative, but that&#8217;s what I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Mara</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now that you explain abouat the tax break, I withdraw the question ;-) OTOH, dishwashers live every day with the knowledge that they are doing useful, tangible work cleaning up and restoring order, whereas the Secretary of the Treasury, well....

How long do you think this recession will last? The last one started in 2001 and lasted until 2004, or is it 2005, would you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now that you explain abouat the tax break, I withdraw the question <img src='http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  OTOH, dishwashers live every day with the knowledge that they are doing useful, tangible work cleaning up and restoring order, whereas the Secretary of the Treasury, well&#8230;.</p>
<p>How long do you think this recession will last? The last one started in 2001 and lasted until 2004, or is it 2005, would you say?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um.  Secretary of the Treasury.  Not the least of which because he got, as part of his offer, a massive tax break for switching out of his Goldman holdings into a blind trust (i.e. he got to sell millions of shares of GS and diversify without having to pay taxes on it).

But that&#039;s a fringe benefit.

Anyway, no one calls recessions until it&#039;s over.  I doubt this one will be different.  It&#039;s never different.  But clearly we&#039;re in one, and it&#039;ll probably last a bit longer than the last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um.  Secretary of the Treasury.  Not the least of which because he got, as part of his offer, a massive tax break for switching out of his Goldman holdings into a blind trust (i.e. he got to sell millions of shares of GS and diversify without having to pay taxes on it).</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s a fringe benefit.</p>
<p>Anyway, no one calls recessions until it&#8217;s over.  I doubt this one will be different.  It&#8217;s never different.  But clearly we&#8217;re in one, and it&#8217;ll probably last a bit longer than the last.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Mara</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3300</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel sorry for the banks ahahahahaha! Indeed!

Man, I can&#039;t imagine what it would be like to be living in a house you must leave because you can&#039;t make the mortgage payment. Gak. Usually your home is the refuge to which you repair after a tough day dealing with the world.

Thanks for the good words, Mr. Gordon! For those who are newcomers to the wacky world of real estate, Hank Paulson is Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.

Among other things, on Feb. 14 Paulson stoutly maintained that there is no recession. I love this comment someone left on a New York Times blog: they said the current administration looks &quot;like deer in the headlights&quot; and the administration&#039;s response to the housing/credit crisis is &quot;worse than Katrina.&quot; Check it out at http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/the-housing-market-how-low-will-it-go/

And now, the question of the hour: Would you rather be a dishwasher or the current U.S. Secretary of the Treasury?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel sorry for the banks ahahahahaha! Indeed!</p>
<p>Man, I can&#8217;t imagine what it would be like to be living in a house you must leave because you can&#8217;t make the mortgage payment. Gak. Usually your home is the refuge to which you repair after a tough day dealing with the world.</p>
<p>Thanks for the good words, Mr. Gordon! For those who are newcomers to the wacky world of real estate, Hank Paulson is Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.</p>
<p>Among other things, on Feb. 14 Paulson stoutly maintained that there is no recession. I love this comment someone left on a New York Times blog: they said the current administration looks &#8220;like deer in the headlights&#8221; and the administration&#8217;s response to the housing/credit crisis is &#8220;worse than Katrina.&#8221; Check it out at <a href="http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/the-housing-market-how-low-will-it-go/" rel="nofollow">http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/the-housing-market-how-low-will-it-go/</a></p>
<p>And now, the question of the hour: Would you rather be a dishwasher or the current U.S. Secretary of the Treasury?</p>
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		<title>By: david gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>david gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t listen to Hank Paulson, that&#039;s for sure! (He pleaded recently for homeowners to not walk away)

There are stories of people being able to stay in their homes more than 6 months and notices not even being mailed out to them. So, maybe up to a year. I don&#039;t have data on that though, but have read several anecdotal reports.

I am encouraging a friend to do this very thing right now in Sacramento. She feels bad, but it&#039;s not about feelings. It&#039;s about making the best personal business decision. Feel sorry for the banks? Get serious. 

Janis, I love this line!

&quot;Let’s say the clue bat has just descended upside your head&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t listen to Hank Paulson, that&#8217;s for sure! (He pleaded recently for homeowners to not walk away)</p>
<p>There are stories of people being able to stay in their homes more than 6 months and notices not even being mailed out to them. So, maybe up to a year. I don&#8217;t have data on that though, but have read several anecdotal reports.</p>
<p>I am encouraging a friend to do this very thing right now in Sacramento. She feels bad, but it&#8217;s not about feelings. It&#8217;s about making the best personal business decision. Feel sorry for the banks? Get serious. </p>
<p>Janis, I love this line!</p>
<p>&#8220;Let’s say the clue bat has just descended upside your head&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  So save the money and get ready to move in the 6 months it takes to evict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  So save the money and get ready to move in the 6 months it takes to evict.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Mara</title>
		<link>http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/2008/03/just_walk_away_renee.html/comment-page-1#comment-3284</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red! Nice to see from you again! So, get yourself all set up in the new place and skedaddle, eh? I believe there&#039;s a fairly long time window between when the first default (late) notice goes out and they come to evict you, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red! Nice to see from you again! So, get yourself all set up in the new place and skedaddle, eh? I believe there&#8217;s a fairly long time window between when the first default (late) notice goes out and they come to evict you, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smartest thing to do would be to save up first and last and deposit... Get a lease on that rental and mail the house keys to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smartest thing to do would be to save up first and last and deposit&#8230; Get a lease on that rental and mail the house keys to the bank.</p>
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