May 28, 2008

Price Reductions on the Mid-Peninsula

down house Price Reductions on the Mid PeninsulaIt’s been a while since I looked at Mid-Peninsula price reductions, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that last week (May 19-25) there were 21 price updates in Redwood City, San Carlos and Belmont with an average reduction of 7.4%. San Carlos only had 3 reductions total, and percentage-wise they weren’t much. Belmont had 4, all in the 5-7% range. Redwood City, with the bulk of the price slashing, had 14 listing prices reduced, ranging from a low of 3% to a high of 19%. For 8 of the 21 properties this was a subsequent slashing, sometimes the 4th or 5th time a price had been cut.

People seem a bit savvier, and are not waiting so long to reduce a price. I’ve taken a look at all 21 properties, along with their listing and sold comps, and their last sale, to give you a brief overview. (Redwood City information will be after the jump.)

BELMONT
924 Ruth Avenue, 2/1, 850 sf, DOM: 66
Originally $729,000, Reduced to $709,000. $699,000, Now $679,000 (-7%)
Square foot price is over $100/sf higher than both listing and sold comps. Probably needs to come down at least another $50k to be in line with the most recent sales. Last Sold 2002 for $430,000.

3207 Longfellow Drive
, 3/2, 1500 sf, DOM: 54
Originally $978,000 Reduced to $928,000 (-5%)
Square foot price now on par with both listing and sold comps. Last sold 1990 for $394,000, although property tax value indicates an addition or revaluation at some point.

Madera Avenue, 4/3.5, 2692 sf, DOM: 288
Originally $1,495,000 Reduced to $1,395,000 (-7%)
This is a 5000 sf parcel of land with approved construction plans. Price includes building of structure but not permits.

1649 Sunnyslope Avenue, 4/3, 2600 sf, DOM: 30
Originally $1,468,500 Reduced to $1,398,000 (-5%)
Priced similarly to larger listing and sold comps. Last Sold 2001 for $595,000.

SAN CARLOS
1029 Cherry Street, 3/3, 1720 sf, DOM: 35
Originally $799,000 Reduced to $779,000 (-2.5%)
$20k? Really not much of a reduction. Additional 1/1 in-law unit on this eastside home. Unfortunately, almost all the comps are on the west side, so not true comps. A lot of home for the $$, and you still get SC schools, though.

1 Coleman Court, 3/3, 3090 sf, DOM: 32
Originally $1,849,000 Reduced to $1,779,000 (-4%)
Still a bit high based on listing and sold comps. Last sold 2006 for $1,150,000 $1,278,000.

125 Coventry Court, 3/2.5, 2860 sf, DOM: 22
Originally $1,899,000 $1,799,000 (-5.5%)
Nine-year-old home on large level lot with pool. May still be on the high side. Last sale 1999 for $795,000.

Redwood City is after the jump…

REDWOOD CITY
614 Warrington Avenue, 2/1, 760 sf, DOM: 54
Originally $399,000 Reduced to $360,000 Now $330,000 (-17%)
Price is within the range of both listing and sold comps. Last Sold 1997 for $162,000, but property tax records show a higher assessment, probably due to additions since the last sale.

5 Vera Court, 2/2, 1340 sf, DOM: 114
Originally $610,000 Reduced 5 times, Now $495,000 (-19%)
Very low square foot price. This may qualify as a bargain in most books. Last Sold 2005 for $705,000

418 Samson Street, 2/1, 940 sf, DOM: 15
Originally $559,000 Reduced to $529,000 Now $495,000 (-11.5%)
Hard to comp, as this is in a mixed neighborhood near downtown. Last sold 2007 for $670,000.

123 A Street, 2/1, 940 sf, DODM: 36
Originally $559,900 Reduced to $519,900 (-7%)
Lower than similar listing comps and recent sold comps. Last sold 2007 for $628,528.

211 Oak Avenue, 3/2, 1320 sf, DOM: 30
Originally $559,900 Reduced to $549,900 Now $529,900 (-5.5%)
Bank owned, but listing says it is not a short sale. Lower than similar comps. Sold in 2006 for $900,000, then Jan of 2008 for $706,500.

555 Jackson Avenue, 3/2, 1800 sf, DOM: 91
Originally $799,000 Reduced to $750,000 Now $675,000 (-15.5%)
Some incomplete updating, being sold As Is, consequently square footage price is lower than comps. Last sale 2004 for $500,000 but tax records show reassessment at some point.

3142 Oak Knoll Drive, 2/1, s funk, DOM: 29
Originally $749,000 Reduced to $720,000 (-4%)
Last sold in 2005 for $1,100,000. Probably purchased for the land value with intent to subdivide. Home in poor condition. Comps not usable, as value is not in house, but in the land.

2491 Massachusetts Avenue, 4/3, 1900 sf, DOM: 56
Originally $875,000 Reduced to $849,000 (-3%)
Home probably has not been sold since the 1970s, and probably hasn’t changed much since then. On a busy street, near the elementary school, making price/per square foot a bit lower than nearby comps.

4108 Jefferson Avenue, 4/2, 2400 sf, DOM: 91
Originally $949,000 Reduced to $899,950 (-5%)
Large home, probably cheapest sf price in Emerald Hills, and significantly cheaper than any listing or sold comps.

541 Montwood Circle, 3/2, 1840 sf, DOM: 36
Originally $1,249,500 Reduced to $1,124,500 (-10%)
Price is within range of listing and sold comps. Last sold in 2000 for $826,000.

325 Nimitz Avenue, 5/2.5, 2730 sf, DOM: 46
Originally $1,369,000 Reduced to $1,249,000, Now $1,189,000 (-13%)
One of the best and biggest homes in the neighborhood. Most surrounding homes are estimated under $1mil. Last sold in 1996 for $400,000.

3859 Bret Harte Drive, 3/3, 2197 sf, DOM: 44
Originally $1,259,000 Reduced to $1,215,000 Now $1,199,000 (-5%)
Large lot with pool. SF price is lower than comp and sold averages. Last sold 1989 for $465,000.

713 Bayview Way, 4/2,5, 2808 sf, DOM: 52
Originally $1,798,000 Reduced to $1,729,000 (-4%)
Nice home, priced well and similar to listing and sold comps.


  • peninsula owner

    I can't answer the question about what you can and cannot say about a listing. That's entirely up to your superiors and lawyers at Redfin. However, even though you are not a Realtor, you are a representative of a "real estate company" and therefore your opinion falls under the category of a qualified (or expert) opinion.

    I asked a few Realtor friends about RE blogs in general, and they are adamant that as a "real estate expert," you can't comment negatively (or for that matter positively) about a listing. Again, you should probably check with your lawyers and the local Realtor board to clarify.

    But I'll reiterate that I'd be mighty angry as a homeowner if I read that about my home. You guys don't need that kind of publicity.

  • PH: For 18 months, I have researched, read, reviewed listing and sales data. While I am no expert, I do feel somewhat qualified to discuss most aspects of real estate. And it is not a far leap to look at listing comps and sales comps to see if a home is overpriced based on those, which is what I was doing. The comment "Still a bit high based on listing and sold comps" is a judgement call made on facts supplied. Is it any different from saying, this is a bargain property based on listing and sold comps? Are only positive statements allowed? And as for the incorrect sales data, I had two independent sources verify that. The fact that both sources were wrong is unfortunate, but not within my control. We write based on the facts we find, which is what I feel I did.

  • peninsula owner

    Susan,

    As a homeowner on the Peninsula, I'm frankly very surprised that you would express a negative opinion on the value of a property, especially since you are NOT a realtor. It's not even acceptable for a Realtor to do such a thing.

    If I were the owner of Coleman Court, and I saw that you voiced a negative opinion on the price of my home, I wouldn't hesitate to contact the lawyers at Redfin and at a minimum ask for an apology and retraction -- quite possibly, you're opening yourself up to damages if the home sells below list. All somebody needs to do is refer to your post.

    On top of that, you didn't even have the previous sales data correct.

    Redfin provides good information on its website -- but voicing your unqualified opinion on properties shouldn't be part of it.

  • Bob Bredel

    Great, thanks, Susan.

    Bob

  • Bob: One of our Redfin agents was kind enough to pull the last sale information for me off the MLS, as none of the Sweet Digs writers are agents or have access to the MLS. I see the home listed on 7/14/06 for $1,100,000 and sold two weeks later for $1,278,000. I will amend the entry above.

  • Adam Schwartz

    Must log in as a realtor to see the COE prices: another example of the anti-trust nature of the MLS!

  • Susan,

    You need to log in as a realtor to see the COE prices. If you are not a realtor please have someone at Redfin conduct that search for you.

    Until you are able to verify the correct number it probably makes the most sense to delete that portion of your description of the property above.

    Thanks,
    Bob

  • Bob: I'm not seeing the last sales price on the MLS listing, with the link you provided. I'm not trying to be difficult, but I do need to actually see a differing sales price somewhere for verification. any other suggestions?

  • Hi Susan,

    As I am sure you are aware, the county figures are often incorrect. Please check any MLS site such as our local MLS, http://mlslistings.com, and you will see the sales price was actually $1,278,000. Additionally, as pointed out in your previous post, the taxes paid on a $1,278,000 basis is most likely the most reliable source.

    Thank you.

    Bob Bredel

  • Bob: I pulled that sale price right off the link at the bottom of the Redfin page, which are the facts as I found them. The sourcei is the county, and we take it for granted that this information is correct. I do see that the county taxes paid in 2006 are based on a value of $1,278,000, which would support your sales figure. However, a quick look at Zillow and I find the same $1,150,000 sale price for 2006. So, I'm not sure what is going on. I have two sources supporting the figure I reported. If you can point me in the right direction to verify the higher sale price, I would be happy to amend the post.

  • Susan,

    I am the listing agent for One Coleman Court. I do not mind you posting information or even an opinion on the property, but I need to ask that you report the facts correctly. One Coleman Court did not sell of $1,150,000 in 2006. It actually sold for $1,279,000 in 2006.

    Bob

  • Jay: there is no way to tell for sure if homes are a short sale on the MLS info unless disclosed in the listing description. Depending on down payments,what looks like a short sale, may not be. I wish more realtors disclosed this issue, as it could affect a buyers decision to see a house or not. Its a bit of a hassle having to deal with short sale issues.
    SMHSIT: Tomorrow I will have a post on sales during the same time period. While there is no telling whether homes got multiple bids, 15 of the 28 homes sold during May 19-25 sold at or over asking. That's over 50%, which is surprisingly high in these economic times.

  • Nice work Susan. I also noticed that people have been accepting bids lower than asking. One example is 905 North Rd in Belmont:
    http://sanmateore.dreamhosters...

    Final asking was 720k and it sold for 680k. I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it's a start.

  • Jay

    This blog entry only tells half of the story. I've looked at many of these homes in Redwood City and most are short sales (where the seller's mortgage is higher than the listing price of the home). So this artificially low listing price is just the agent's way of generating artificially interest, but the homeowner does not have any say in accepting your offer or not. It is entirely up to the bank that owns the mortgage.

  • Adam Schwartz

    In addition to price reductions, it seems like more sellers are accepting bids under the asking price. For instance, 2136 Greenwood was listed for $918K and just sold for $895. That's only 2.5% under asking, but it's still points to an end to multiple bid wars.

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