May 4, 2008

Wandering Down Memory Lane

yellowbrickrd Wandering Down Memory LaneI’m in the mood to share today. I’m hoping that this act of generosity will help at least one person who is contemplating a home purchase. This is a story about “location, location, location,” and “head over heart,” two tenets of real estate that I ignored. To my detriment, I might add.

The year was 1987 and I was buying my first home. This was a seller’s market, when multiple overbids on day one of a listing were a common occurrence. My husband and I and our two small children were living in a duplex on Alma Street in Palo Alto. The passing trains caused the windows to shake and rattle and speeding cars were a constant concern with two toddlers. We needed to move, and the offer from a family member to help us purchase a home made us dive right into the fray.

We concentrated our search in Palo Alto, keeping our eyes on homes up the Peninsula to San Carlos. Months of traipsing to open houses led to us make several offers on homes, all of which we lost out on to higher bidders. Determined to get in the game, we made an offer of $200,000 o n a 3/2 fixer in south Palo Alto, on the first day it came on the market, after seeing it for less than 30 minutes. Sloping floors, an outdated kitchen, and a very funky layout didn’t deter us. We knew Palo Alto was a hot market, ever popular, and we were young enough to put in the sweat equity.

However, my heart derailed the process shortly after our bid was presented. I fell in love with a turn-of-the-century home in Redwood City. The house, on the market for several months already (ding, ding, ding—warning bell), had character and charm and was situated on a large corner lot where my children would love to play. It was also located in a mixed neighborhood, with homes, duplexes, and apartments, and just 2 blocks off a major retail thoroughfare. Only a 2/2, it could also be had for $200,000 and would require no work on our part.

Against the objections of our realtor (ding, ding, ding), we cancelled our offer on the south Palo Alto fixer and bought said charming home in Redwood City. And the house served us well for 7 years. There were numerous families in the neighborhood, lots of friends for our children, and easy access to freeways. The store was within walking distance, as was a school. But the time came when we outgrew the house and adding on was not an option.

The year is now 1994, and again we enter a seller’s market. Well, it’s a sellers market for some people. Apparently, we were not part of that “some.” For 18 months, we cleaned, we mowed, we tidied up. We held open houses, saw people come and go, but no offers, I’m not sure how many re-listings we signed, but I do know that our children began calling our realtor Auntie Val, because she was around so often. We lowered the price when we were told to lower the price, removed all the clutter, gussied the place up, in short, we did everything a good seller should. But no luck. What made the journey so painful was the number of houses that we put offers on that we lost because we could not find a buyer for our home. Oh, and the fact that the Palo Alto house was now worth twice what we would have paid, while in the end we only made about $25,000 on our “charmer.”

So the hard lessons learned are:

➢ Find a realtor you trust, and listen to them. Take their advice, as that is what you are paying for.
➢ If a home is long on the market, analyze why. Is it location? If so, think again or you could end up in the same boat when you sell.
➢ Be practical. Don’t let your emotions and heart rule your decision. This is the biggest investment of your life and it’s best if your head is in the game.

The one blessing in all of this was our realtor. She stuck by us, working diligently trying to sell our house and spending an inordinate amount of time searching for a replacement. And for the last 13 years, she has not only been a close friend (and sold two other homes for me), but my children still call her Auntie Val.


  • Ed

    Thanks for sharing!

  • (1) The fact that it was an old home. While I found it charming, many people prefer something build after 1900. While I saw the history (it used to be used for revival meetings), others saw the potential upkeep and upgrades down the road. (2) location, location, location. Near a busy street (woodside road), and amongst duplexes and apartments with lots of residents, lots of cars and people, and not all of them as nicely kept as when I had bought previously.

  • Ed

    So what do you think it was that caused your home to not sell?

  • Zain, I have sent the info to your email address.

  • zain

    Susan: great post! I'm in the market for a first home and I'm regularly stumped about what's a good location and what isn't. Great advice, though.

    Hey, any chance you could post contact info for Auntie Val? That's a solid endorsement and I'd love to give her a call :) Drop me an email if you dont want to post the info in public - zain at inzain dot net

  • Yes, we did enjoy the home, but in hindsight we would have been better off in PA. Not only would we have made more $$$ (I mean almost $200k), but the schools would have been better, and it would have been highly unlikely that the house would have sat for any length of time on the market. You cannot imagine what it is like to ready a house every day for 18 months for potential clients. With 2 children and a dog, that is no easy feat.

  • Red

    You lived in a charming home for 7 years and you have regrets? Have you ever fixed a "fixer"? You can sink an enormous amount of money, live with countless problems, contractor nightmares... and then not get lucky with where the "location" is and lose your shirt.
    Ah, and Palo Alto home prices sucked around '94 too. Check out one - very nice - place:
    Sold: 1988: $1,350,000.
    Sold: 1990: $2,400,000.
    Sold: 1993: $1,650,000.
    A $750,000 loss.
    This is: "Palo Altos Signature Home, The Squire House" now for sale at $14,750,000. A little high?
    Nah, location, location, location....

  • Susan: I think "San Mateo" makes a valid point. You said yourself:

    "the house served us well for 7 years. There were numerous families in the neighborhood, lots of friends for our children, and easy access to freeways. The store was within walking distance, as was a school"

    That sounds pretty idyllic to me and worth factoring in when crunching the numbers. Seven years of good-quality life is worth a lot!

  • My question is, do you think you would have liked to live in the Palo Alto house better? Nevermind the amount of money you could have made, a house really is just a place to live.

  • david gordon

    You are indeed lucky. It is tough to find or know someone who truly cares about your financial situation after the sale. Many have to ask a friend or talk to a listing broker at a house they walk into.

    You are also knowledgeable of local RE where many are not and have no clue what is going on in their local area, and that can spell disaster if you are looking for blind guidance from a realtor. The decision to buy or sell really does start and end with the buyer/seller. A realtor is mainly there for the paperwork in my eyes, and they get paid quite a bit to do that! :)

  • My realtor was making money off of us whether we bought in PA or RWC. the house prices were the same, her commission was the same on both. The advice I ignored was where to buy - which neighborhood was better both to live in and to invest in. There really was a clear winner in that category, but I could not see it and didn't listen to her. The realtor I have now, and have had for the past 13 years, is one I trust implicitly, but I realize that not everyone can be this lucky.

  • david gordon

    1994 was not a seller's market for anyone in the bay area. This was toward the end of that 7 year cycle from peak to trough (89-96).

    I must disagree on the advice to find a realtor, trust them, and listen to their advice. You pay a realtor to help consummate the transaction and get you through the paperwork portion, not for their financial/investment advice. First, 99% are not qualified to give investment/financial advice nor do most understand markets and the fundamentals. Second, the very nature of their job and compensation structure creates an inherent conflict of interest. This is not their fault, but people (especially SALESPEOPLE, and let's not forget that is what they are) are going to sell you something if their livelihood depends on it, and these realtors do not have a salary to fall back on. They sell a house or they don't get paid.

    Please don't anyone misinterpret this as being a knock on realtors, as there are some good ones out there, but it is also very hard to find one you can trust right from the start if you don't have a clue about the market. How many realtors would actually tell you (correctly) right now to hold off and not buy a house in the next 2-3 years in SF if you came to them and said that's what you were thinking about doing.

    Buyers/seller are really on their own as far as making their own investment/financial decisions regarding real estate. The data is out there (unlike 10,15,20 years ago when the MLS was not "open" and you NEEDED a realtor for information).

    I think this is a common misconception in the real estate world - that realtors should tell you WHEN to buy or sell. This is just not the case.

  • David

    You mean R.E. doesn't always go up?? people aren't always able to sell in a day??!

    I'm shocked. Shocked!

    Just kidding, but it does surprise me how short people's memories are. Trying to sell a house from 1993-1996 was painful, and if you bought in 1989, you lost money, never mind eking out a small gain. But now, sellers expect buyers to be happy about paying fantasy-land prices to help pay off the Lexus the seller bought with his/her second/HELOC.

    Sorry. Ain't playing that.

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